Praying the Rosary

Tuesday, July 21, 2009

"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."

That's the "Hail Mary," a prayer that - along with the Apostles' Creed, the Lord's Prayer, and the Gloria Patri - is often prayed using a rosary in Catholic devotional practice. Millions of Catholics around the world pray the rosary on a regular basis. And I've never met a Protestant who does so.

Why is that? I've got some ideas, but first let me tell you why I'm bringing the subject up.

I posted earlier about the Arts Village here at the Duke Youth Academy, which is one of the areas for which I am responsible as a Ministry Coordinator on staff. Another area I oversee is our Prayer Practice Workshops, which introduce our high school students to forms of prayer that they have often not encountered before. We use DYA staff members who have some personal experience with various prayer traditions to lead the workshops, and they do a great job of both teaching and leading students through prayer out of a particular tradition.

This year, our Prayer Practice Workshop options look like this:

- Praying the Psalms
- Lectio Divina
- Prayer Journaling
- Visio Divina
- Praying the Rosary

Last year we also offered workshops in Centering Prayer and Healing Prayer (w/ holy oil). Our students are generally very drawn toward exploring different forms of prayer, and it is a real joy to be able to share with them some of the richness of Christian prayer traditions.

So back to praying the rosary.

I attended our Praying the Rosary Workshop this afternoon, which was led by David Bristow (one of our mentors on staff). David is the youth minister at St. Joseph Catholic Church in Herndon, VA, and he did a great job explaining some of the history and meaning behind the rosary. He then led us in praying a complete rosary, focusing on the contemplation of five "luminous mysteries," or one for each of the rosary's decades (i.e., the baptism of Jesus, the wedding at Cana, the proclamation of the Kingdom of God, the Transfiguration, and the institution of the Eucharist).

Most of the students and staff at DYA are Protestants, so David tried to teach in such a way that the Protestants among us could relate (or at least understand). He emphasized that praying "through" Mary to Jesus is simply a way of asking Mary to intercede for us with her Son. And he compared it to asking friends or family to pray for us here on earth - something that all of us do on a regular basis, of course.

So I've got a question for you Protestants out there: Accepting that there's a lot of theology around Mary that we'd have to work out in the long run, to what could we possibly object in the short run when it simply comes to praying in such a way that we ask the Theotokos, the Mother of God, to intercede for us with Jesus Christ?

Many of us have prayed gazing at the cross to draw us closer to Jesus, or at a lit flame to draw us closer to the Holy Spirit. Some of us have prayed with icons of Jesus as a way of drawing us into closer communion with Him through prayer. So why should we not allow ourselves to be drawn to Him by praying to Him through the intercessions of the Virgin Mary? Do we not believe her to be among that great cloud of witnesses about which the Book of Hebrews speaks? And if so, is she not continually praising the triune God through prayer and thanksgiving?

I admit that I found praying the rosary to be very comforting and peaceful. It even allowed me a disciplined way to pray for family members, friends, and church members who I knew needed God's care. It also strikes me that the real ecumenical work that needs to be done within Christ's broken body might best be done when Christians of different communions come together and join in common worship of our Lord and Savior using the particularities of our different traditions.

At DYA, we certainly don't tell our students that they need to go home and pray this way or worship that way. But by introducing them to aspects of the Christian faith that they may not have encountered before, I hope that we are opening their minds to the great possibilities that exist for the church catholic through the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

And for the record, here's John Wesley's take on the Virgin Mary from his irenic tract, A Letter to a Roman Catholic:

"I believe [Jesus] is the proper, natural Son of God, God of God, very God of very God; and that he is the Lord of all, having absolute, supreme, universal dominion over all things ... I believe that he was made man, joining the human nature with the divine in one person; being conceived by the singular operation of the Holy Ghost, and born of the blessed Virgin Mary, who, as well after as before she brought him forth, continued a pure and unspotted virgin."

A Methodist doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary?

Who would've thunk it?

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11 Comments:

Blogger Daniel McLain Hixon said...

Hey Andrew,
I pray a rosary - and we've met before (briefly, at Jeff McCormick's wedding). But, being a bit unsure as to whether or not the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of our Lord, can hear and respond to us (which is assumed in Roman Catholic devotional practices), I use the Anglican-style Rosary:

http://www.kingofpeace.org/prayerbeads.htm

I know a couple of other Methodists who do as well.

9:58 AM  
Blogger Daniel McLain Hixon said...

But who knows if I'm really a 'Protestant'? Ha. I've actually heard that Luther, Calvin, and Wesley ALL believed in the perpetual virginity of the blessed Mother of our Lord.

I have tried to incorporate prayers of thanksgiving for her unique witness and place in salvation history into my prayer life more frequently, in hopes of living toward an ecumenical consensus.

10:02 AM  
Blogger Andrew C. Thompson said...

Daniel -

I know exactly who you are! Since I started reading your blog in the months after Jeff & Sarah's wedding, I have wished we had had more time to visit.

The very issue you raise - which is whether the Virgin (or any of the communion of saints) can hear us in heaven - is the very first among the questions I would want to take up with my Catholic brothers and sisters around the issue of praying through Mary and the saints. On the one hand, there is no biblical text that would directly support that view. But on the other hand, there are plenty of texts that would suggest that the veil between this life and eternity with God is not nearly as opaque from the point of view of eternity.

Thanks for the link, by the way. I'll check it out.

- Andrew

10:12 AM  
Anonymous Joe Tognetti said...

Andrew,

After I felt called to leave the Catholic Church, I still went to World Youth Day, the triennial gathering of youth and young adult Catholics around the world (it was in Australia last year). I prayed the rosary numerous times on that pilgrimage, initially out of respect for everyone else who was doing so, but I must admit, it too was comforting.

In theory, nothing would be wrong with praying through Mary and ask for her intercession, just as we pray to friends and family. I think the problem that many Protestants have noticed, and I noticed this when I was still Catholic, was that so often people don't pray through Mary, but to Mary, and I'd rather be slightly less ecumenical than have Protestant churches start confusing their members and take the focus off Christ as our Lord and Savior.

And yes, I'm a bit surprised that Wesley believed in the perpetual virginity, but I bet he didn't believe in the Immaculate Conception...

2:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've prayed the Rosary off and on since college (my Catholic friends were the only ones who got up and went to church on Sunday mornings, so, I frequently joined them). It brings me great peace, especially when I am more regular in praying it. I tend to leave out the few mysteries I'm not sure about (coronation of Mary as Queen of Heaven and the assumption of Mary) and focus on another mysterues instead. I also pray the Rosary using an Anglican book, which follows the liturgical calendar.

I'm okay with asking for prayers of intercession from Mary and other saints who have gone on ahead---I see them as part of the great cloud of witnesses that the Bible speaks about. I am concerned, however, with the level of devotion some Catholics extend to Mary when it seems to diminish their devotion to Christ.

Thanks for this post!

texasaggiemom

6:47 PM  
Anonymous Josh Duckworth said...

Thanks Andrew! My parishioners were asking about this very thing at bible study this week.

9:17 PM  
Anonymous Jim W said...

Andrew -

I believe two far more troubling Catholic doctrines than the perpetual virginity of Mary come into play here; the Immaculate Conception OF Mary which seemingly negates Mary's need for a Savior (often misunderstood by we Protestants as the virgin birth of Jesus), and more importantly the newest Catholic doctrine of the Assumption of Mary into heaven (she never died, but because of her sinless nature was taken or "assumed" into heaven. That doctrine, proclaimed ex-cathedra in I believe the late 1800's really opened the door to the apparitions of Mary, worship of Mary and prayers TO Mary that are commonplace in the Roman Catholic church today.

The act of focused/planned prayer could be a wonderful addition to a
Protestant's prayer life; I just don't agree the current form of the Roman Catholic rosary is that useful (but I'm interested to look at the Anglican form posted above).

11:29 PM  
Blogger Andrew C. Thompson said...

Jim W, I think you are right when you point to the immaculate conception and the assumption as two places where Protestants are going to have a very hard time reconciling theologically with our Catholic brothers and sisters. My understanding is that, before Wesley, Calvin and Luther both also believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary; but even there, the plain Scriptural evidence of Jesus' siblings seems to present problems.

It was to those types of issues that I was referring when I said we'd have to work out our differences on Mary in the long run. But irregardless of the doctrinal specifics, I think most Protestants are willing to agree with Rome to the extent that Mary has a special place amongst the communion of saints. And if those who are in Christ after death have any access at all to us in the material world (e.g., if they are aware of our prayers as they are carried to heaven by the Holy Spirit), it leaves open the possibility that it could be considered right and proper (even for Protestants!) to ask the mother of Christ to intercede for us.

By the way, thanks to all for the great responses to this post. I think the interest that many Protestants have in these types of questions is a real sign of hope. The Holy Spirit is working to heal the brokenness in Christ's body that we have so long assumed would always be present.

12:34 AM  
Blogger Nathan said...

As a Catholic, I find Andrew's post and these comments very interesting, and encouraging too.

There are good answers to the various questions that have been raised about the Catholic Church's teachings on Mary. A great place to start, if you're from an evangelical background, is Mark Shea's new little trilogy, Mary Mother of the Son. It can be purchased online.

I don't see us coming to consensus on all these issues in the near future of course, but there is lots of room for growth by working past mutual misunderstandings.

3:54 PM  
Blogger Pastor Ralph said...

I find your post and many of the comments positive.

You may know that the Methodist Church in Britain has an agreement with Rome on Roman Catholic doctrines of the Blessed Virgin Mary, but reserves some distance on practices.

I occasionally pray with Mary. Believing in the communion of the saints and her role as the Theotokos, I invite the saints to pray for and with me, trusting that their prayers may complete my own in ways I do not understand, and, by the Holy Spirit draw me into deeper union with Christ who is the focus of my prayer.

The place where Marian prayer is most critical is with women (and a few men) who have been sexually, physically, and emotionally abused by men in whom they were trusting. Those traumas interfere with free prayer to Jesus, even if they by will accept him as their personal savior. Abused trust makes encounters with a male image of Christ challenging, so I encourage directees to pray with Mary. My experience is that she always points to Christ--always. I have experienced her intercession for such women in profound ways that have broken through the broken trust issues to draw the person into spiritual intimacy with Christ Jesus. Mary seems to have a particular concern for victims of abuse as far as I have observed.

It is wise to view the Marian prayers with some care. There are RC theological claims and practices that seem to raise her to a mediatrix role that our theology rejects. Nevertheless, it would do Methodists well to seriously explore the communion of the saints, intercessory prayer and the will of God for us in these arenas of spiritual life.

The Wesleys had a very strong affinity for All Saints Day spirituality, but remained hesitant about practices that seemed to "invoke" a saint, as proscribed by the Articles of Religion. Nevertheless, Charles and John seemed to find great spiritual joy and comfort in the communion of the saints.

Where these theological issues resolve is not yet clear to me, but the inquiry is a positive development. Keep the conversation going.

8:57 PM  

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